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Worldwide Church of God Offshoot: Jesus Is Returning on May 27, 2012, Mockers Are Issued a Stern Warning

the end is nearThe Worldwide Church of God, once led by the late Herbert W. Armstrong, was considered by many to be a cult.   It allegedly had over 140,000 members in its prime.   The church changed its doctrines after the 1986 death of Armstrong, which led to numerous people leaving the church and the formation of various "splinter churches."   The Worldwide Church of God  changed its name to Grace Communion International, probably a move to cut its ties to its cult reputation and the dozens of Armstrong splinter groups.  The new organization is not considered to be a cult, but more in line with mainstream Christianity.

Although Armstrong has been dead for over 20 years,   those familiar with his church are still passionate about his influence.   Some staunchly cling to his teachings; others feel abused, disillusioned and/or angry.   Various websites and blogs continue to provide news and support for former members.

The various splinter churches that rose from the ashes of the old version of the Worldwide Church of God each appear to be proclaiming to be "the one true church" and true champions of Armstrongism.  They are strict Friday  sunset to Saturday sunset Sabbath keepers.  They continue to follow the "holy days" set forth in the Old Testament.  They follow Armstrong's teachings about the Trinity, dietary laws, tithing and other subjects, including a belief in "the tribulation" and end times.

One of these splinter churches is the Church of God – PKG (Preparing for the Kingdom of God), headed up by Ronald Weinland.  This church makes some bold statements about what constitutes "true seekers of God" and proclaims in its FAQ,

… it is expedient that each person be convicted of where God is leading them and where God is working. God's Church today is organized as the church of God – PKG (Preparing for the Kingdom of God). We are the prophesied remnant (that which remains from the scattering of the Church in the mid 1990's) that God is leading at this end-time. God has humbled His Church, and He has diminished its size. Hundreds of years ago, God prophesied the percentage that will be drawn back together as His final remnant in this end-time. From those who were originally scattered and spewed from God's mouth (that which has happened to the final era–the Laodicean era of Revelation 3:14), only a tithe of a third will be drawn back into fellowship with Him. In addition, even now God is drawing new people into fellowship who are being added to His Church (above the number of the remnant to be called back), and will continue to be added right up to the day Jesus Christ returns.

Perhaps the boldest claim being made by the Church of God  – PKG is that it knows the exact day that Jesus is returning to earth.

That day is May 27, 2012.

According to the Church of God – PKG website,

More than ever, this is the time to prepare for the return of Jesus Christ. The Seventh Seal has now been opened and the world is being plunged into the final tribulation for mankind. Ronald Weinland, who is the pastor of God's Church on earth, has also been appointed by the God of Abraham to be His end-time prophet and one of the two end-time witnesses (and spokesman of both), preceding the return of Jesus Christ on May 27, 2012.

The church offers two free books that explain this prophesy:  The Prophesied End-Time and 2008 – God's Final Witness, both authored by Weinland.  "Although many will not take seriously what is written here, they will gradually experience disbelief and horror at the events covered in these books as they begin to unfold," the author explains.

On its corresponding site, The-End.com, readers are told:

The year 2008 marked the last of God’s warnings to mankind and the beginning in a countdown of the final three and one-half years of man’s self-rule that will end by May 27, 2012.

On December 14, 2008, the First Trumpet of the Seventh Seal of the Book of Revelation sounded, which announced the beginning collapse of the economy of the United States and great destruction that will follow. The next three trumpets will result in the total collapse of the United States, and once the Fifth Trumpet sounds the world will be thrust into WW III.

Weinland asserts that "God made him a prophet in 1997."  Apparently, his wife is an associate prophet who also asserts that Jesus is coming back on May 27, 2012.

In a 2009 sermon, Weinland issued a warning to mockers:


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  • My first article in a while is on it's way.
    I'm a prophet too. 😛

    • I can't wait, Prophet Man of Earth! 🙂

  • majii

    This is funny considering that I just read in the book of Luke that no one knows when the end is coming, not even Jesus. For this reason alone, the church should be mocked.

    • This preacher would demand that you read his books and would condemn you as a mocker, Majii. He seems quite arrogant … and quite different from Christians who place biblical scripture above self-proclaimed prophets' claims.

      Thanks so much for commenting!

      Deborah

  • Weinland (aka WeinerDude) is just one of over 700 harlot splinter cults that have broken off the mother church. They all claim to be 'preservers of the truth once delivered.' In actuality they are insignificant little personality cults lead be egomaniacs such as Weinerdude. Sadly, there are foolish people that follow these mentally disturbed men.

    If you want to read about another Armstrongite cult 'minister' who is even weirder than this idiot, check out Wade Cox.

    http://asbereansdid.blogspot.com/2010/11/wade-cox-in-his-own-words.html

    • 700 splinter groups! Good grief!

      Thanks for the heads up on Wade Cox … I'll read up on him now. It ought to be entertaining.

    • Wow. He seems obsessed with the deaths of people who don't bow down to him.

      Do you know how many people are in his church? I have a hard time understanding the mindset of people who follow cult personalities like Cox.

      Thanks so much for this link.

      • I think it is around a thousand, or even less. Not too many are interested in this moron.

        He also believes that Islam and the TRUE Church of God (Sabbath Keeping, law keeping, kosher eating legalists) kept the word of God faithfully. At one point in time they were one and the same. You can read his hilarious COG and Islam connections here:

        http://www.ccg.org/_domain/ccg.org/searchresults.html?cx=016195929599605161752:yiw9cvbggqy&cof=FORID:11&q=islam&sa=CCG+site+search&siteurl=www.ccg.org/officers/wade-cox.html

        • Excellent information, No2HWA. I am seriously thinking about having a Armstrong-spinoff discussion on one of our God Discussion shows because these groups are so bizarre and, in a weird way, fascinating. Do you think there'd be an interest?

          I've learned a lot from you today. Thanks so much!
          Deborah

          • Sure I think there would be an interest. I can give you a plug on my blog too.

      • There is another idiot that has a splinter cult of former Armstrongites. His name is Neville Stevens and his cult is called Zion Ministries. http://www.zionministry.com/

        Several years ago on the alt.wcg board a few of his cult members got on and wrecked havoc. Or at least they tried.

        Several of us made mince meat of their beliefs. As a result I had the official pronouncement that I was going to die on Passover (Armstrongism's version) in 2005. Fifteen years later and I am still here. lol

        His followers also bragged that they were going to take up sword to kill all who disagreed and thwarted the end-time work of Neville. They actually thought/still think that they will be going to Jerusalem to kill all who oppose the 'one true church'.
        Armstrongism has certainly created a legion of idiots!

  • ks sunflower

    This sounds so Old Testament. Where is Jesus in Weinland's equation? Where are the concepts of mercy and forgiveness? What happens to all those who were never exposed to his church's tenets and therefore could not follow its righteous ways?

    The man certainly thinks he knows how to wield fear to make people submit to his teachings. I just have trouble embracing the idea that his teachings are truly of and from God. If they are, I guess I will have to simply accept that I will not be living forever amongst Weinland's kind. Now, that's my idea of heaven. No mocking intended, just the truth.

    How do these people appreciate the world as it is, all its beauty and the kindness that does abound? That far exceeds the misery and meanness.

    When I was a child, my mother told me "you make your own heaven and hell." I took that as meaning that I could chose to see and embrace either the positives or the negatives of any situation, that I could be thankful for the light and beauty within and around me or I could curse and lament the darkness and ugliness. I have always chosen the positive and do not regret turning away from teachings such Weinland's because it is so alien to the sense of Spirit that I feel and know.

    • Thank you for your kind and thoughtful comments, KS Sunflower.

      I think the root of his teachings comes from Armstrongism. My recollection of that cult was that they had an obsession about preparing for "the tribulation" and practically everything centered around the end times and patriarchy. They were into the Old Testament in a major, "legalist" way and celebrated the Old Testament holy days and sabbath. With that kind of thinking, it's impossible to see any kind of beauty in the world because the only focus is how evil it is and how it will be destroyed.

      It looks to me that when Armstrong died and the theology started to change, the fundamentalists within the cult became even more fundie and obsessed with the end times and strict biblical legalism. It reminds me of the FLDS and other polygamist cults that emerged when the LDS Church got rid of its polygamist doctrine. The Mormon fundie fringe groups have bitterly struggled to "keep the true faith" of the Mormon church.

      Deborah

  • I love how he copies the Armstrongian leather armchair with gold globe on oak table set up. You'd think somebody like that would, I don't know…get an imagination and act like an individual.

    • LOL! I noticed that, too, Dakota, and am thinking about putting together a picture essay. The majority of these little cult leaders that I've been looking at lately appear to do that. I guess they think it makes them look intelligent and prophetic.

      • I have a picture of Weinerdude Weinland sitting in that chair with a beanie propeller on his head. It has been around for several years. If you want i can send it to you.

  • KatzKids

    It's a trivial thing, but interesting to me that the self-proclaimed right hand man of Gawd can't spell.

    Trust me, I don't take this man's raving and hideous agenda lightly but I couldn't help but chuckle when reading the first sentence; "it is expedient that each person be CONVICTED of where God is leading them and where God is working."

    It must be my lightness of spirit and being an eternal optimist that gives me such a warped sense of humor. That sense has saved my life & sanity in a number of ways throughout my life. Of course it occasionally gets me in hot water too when it jumps out unannounced in certain situations. LOL!

    Thanks for keeping us up to date on these very real threats to our nations' sanity.

    • Thanks so much for the laugh, Katz! 🙂

      People with a sense of humor keep us all sane!

      A lot of us have been having a great time watching that video at the end. I think between the atheists, the skeptics, the humorists, the Christians, the New Agers, the Muslims, the Mormons, the Jews, the curious and most everyone else visiting this page (hereinafter collectively referred to as "mockers"), we gave him quite a boost in views.

      Deborah

  • The Bible states we will not know when he returns. Therefore, as soon as some individual/organization states they know the date – you know they are not following the Bible, and are likely a cult.

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  • If you are interested in an index of all the main splinters (with website links) try this page :-

    http://foresight-of-hindsight.blogspot.com/2008/11/church-of-god-index-of-splinters.html

    More information is here :-

    http://foresight-of-hindsight.blogspot.com/2008/10/armstrongism-church-of-god-ronald.html

    Also, there are links to many more articles about Armstrongism, Church of God, and Destructive Cults in the 'Quick Links' section on the right-hand-side.

    … Cheers

  • Here is another deviate of Armstrongism – Gerald Flurry. Read about how the teen age girls are treated in his cult:

    http://exitsupportnetwork.com/mike_ep/story/abandon.htm

    More info about Flurry can be found here: The link is to Flurry kneeling at HWA's supposed Prayer Rock. Flurry hauled this thing from the woods of Oregon to Oklahoma. Lots of other good info on this site.

    http://www.pcog.info/ptmmtp.htm#Prayer Rock

  • Douglas Becker

    Let me issue a stern warning to Raunch WeenieLand:

    God is against you. You are an idolator. You are a false prophet. You've already predicted the end and missed, yet you go right on as if nothing happened. See what Jesus had to say about you in Matthew 7:15 and beyond. Your fruit is corrupt and you are evil. The Apostle Paul said of your ilk: "From such turn away".

    Having said that, let me say, more power to you. You are getting away with being an agent of Satan. Enjoy it while it lasts.

    In the end, if all happens according to past patterns, you are going to very much regret your putting yourself above God the Father and Jesus Christ to steal those away who would seek the true God, if it weren't for you.

    If the Bible is accurate, your lies, thefts and covetousness will result in your being kept from the very thing you promise your followers.

    But then, that's just my opinion. What do I know? Besides computers, science, psychology, sociology, composition, Scripture, management and technology?

    • He — and all the spinoffs that some of the knowledgeable folks mentioned here — never cease to amaze me.

      Thanks for commenting, Douglas.

      Deborah

  • Message to Worldwide Church of God off-shoot churches…

    The 1st Witness of Revelation ch.11, who is the endtime Elijah (see Malachi 4:5-6) is soon to enter the world stage…

    http://www.zionministry.com/Psalms/Introduction.html

    http://www.zionministry.com/

  • Mriana

    Talk about a delusion! We ALL die. We ALL cease to exist, so he is really under a delusion if he believes he will live forever. His words are nothing but fear tactics to scare people into buying into what he is trying to sell. It is one of the greatest mind games of these people to get control of others mentally. He, of course, truly believes that if others don't believe him, thus living under a delusion, being controlled by others higher than he is, what he is saying. He truly believes that if one doesn't believe they will be eaten up from the inside out like some horror movie, but the thing is, this sort of belief is nothing but an attempt to scare people far more than any horror movie, but it is pure fiction and a psychological mind game. I feel sorry for him that he has fallen for such a belief.

    • … and I feel sorry for the kids who have to grow up in the environment of his church. It just amazes me that adults fall for this drivel.

  • David

    WTFUN is this thing saying by this false prophet?? the Bible says NO ONE KNOW , EVEN THE ANGEL, PROPHETS nor PASTOR.. ALL!! if you believe this man! I am saying to you that he's making you FOOL.. he will drag you to HELL.. IN THE NAME OF JESUS

  • Artiewhitefox

    Devils look for a sign, and devils have no faith. The devils look for their end in humans that die. Gods word says no one knows the day or the hour. This has to be the most common passage spoken, and humans still believe humans when they they contradict the words of God that are plainly spoken?

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  • jesusfreak

    go ahead and mock me just as Jesus was!!!

    • Still Here

      It's 1:37am where I am now, on May 27th, 2012. Not sh!t has happened. Fcuk Ronald Weinland for wishing death on the world.

  • Acts 1:7 (New International Version)

     7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.

    I believe in God, not a fraud like you! You can join all the other frauds here: http://www.abhota.info/

  • So Jesus is returning in a few days.

    Heck, this is the very first I've heard of it. I don't need to mock you, you're doing a pretty good job of that all by yourselves. What's your plan for when He doesn't show up, yet again? Have you given that any consideration at all? What will the excuse be? Will you make another prediction, explaining how you screwed up the math and now the new date is X? Will you continue to take yourselves seriously even though no one else possibly can?

    That's MY 100% guaranteed prediction: you'll have some sort of lame explanation when the appointed date comes and goes without a significant event happening, and you will eventually just set a new date and start a new countdown…and over and over and over again. Just remember, most of us think that you'd have to be either insane or just plain stupid to continue to believe in something like this, especially after having just proven yourselves quite fallible already. What you think of as unwavering faith is considered by many to be unwavering stupidity.

    O.k., so maybe that falls under the category of mocking, after all. I just can't help it, though. You're going to be wrong – and most of you already know it in your "heart of hearts" but are afraid to admit it to yourselves or your fellow worshippers. You don't have to do this to yourselves. You can free yourselves from the bondage of religion if you are brave and strong enough to be truly honest with yourselves, and not worry what someone else may think about it. Listen to yourself and live free. You can still be as "good" as you want to be, but trust me when I say it feels truly satisfying to know you're doing your own chosen form of good out of simple choice, without the promise of some kind of divine reward. Do you understand what I'm saying? Giving up on man-made religion doesn't have to mean you're now doomed to be evil. Just choose to be good anyway…whatever that may mean for you.

    That's my advice to you. Do what you will with it.

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  • Glmeade

    Somehow, W. has perverted the grace and love of God and exchanged it for the traditions of men.  Christ was not cruel or an egomaniac either.  So, how can W. think in a reasoned way that he has or that God would allow him to wish death on others?

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