How to Hear Gods Voice
How to Hear God's Voice is a practical book, clearly training Christians how to experience dialogue with God. Teaching the use of vision, intuitive heart flow and journaling, this book will bring you to the place where you can daily record what the Lord is saying to you.
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1 Star New Age, spiritism
This book intermingles bits of New Age and spiritism into its pages, along with Bible teaching. This is sad, as most of the book is really quite good.
There are references to things like:
1) Jesus' inner resurrection – Mark writes on page 17:
"In Philippians 3:10,11, he said that his great desire was "that I might know Him, and the power of his [inner] resurrection…"
In the passage quoted above, Mark adds the word [inner] to the scripture, which isn't in my Bibles!
2) Statements that the Bible never commands us to study it because the word "study" is rarely in the Hebrew/Greek texts. I don't understand how Mark can say this, as he was a Pastor; Scripture should be an authority in the lives of Christians. How can one learn of God without studying the scriptures? What about II Timothy 3:16-17?
3) Using imagery or "vision" to be attached to the Spirit of God
4) Journaling as thoughts come to you (his idea sounds more like automatic writing to me)
5) Writings from God to Mark Virkler where God and he discuss what it is like when the two of them are expressing their personalities through Mark's body, page 61:
God speaking to Mark: "I called you out so that I could live in you and so that we could both experience what the combination of the two of us looks like when we are expressing our personalities through this one body."
In witchcraft, a belief as to why some spirits like to inhabit bodies (or should I say possess them) is so they can experience what it is like inside a human. Does this sound similar? Perhaps Mark doesn't understand what he is saying…but I can't believe God cares one bit about experiencing what it is like to inhabit a human body…I know the Spirit of God resides inside a person if he/she is a believer in Christ, but it is not to "experience" us, only to love and help us. This just sounds plain weird!
6) "Breathe in the pure Spirit of Christ as I breathe out the contaminated spirit of self" (sounds more like Hinduism or Eastern meditation) p. 76
7) One partial paragraph on page 87 states:
"However, some of the paths into the spirit world are neutral. They may be used by either cultists or Christians. On the other hand, some paths are not neutral. A non-Christian may use drugs to enter the spirit world. This is an illegal entry for the Christian and strictly forbidden in the Bible. The word for witchcraft in the Bible is pharmacea which is, of course, connected with drugs."
Talking about paths into the "spirit world" is not something Christians I've met talk about; at least not in these terms. It just doesn't sound right to me! And we don't enter the "spirit world" the way a cultist would, nor do we talk to spirits. I hope he is not insinuating that witchcraft is okay, and that one can use it to enter the spirit world, as long as one doesn't use drugs to do so. It sounds a little on the edge and scary to me!
He talks about the key to unlocking the door to the inner world is through the use of vision (sounds like New Age, meditation or witchcraft). The "inner world" is often contacted in witchcraft through imagery and trance, as a way to enter the spirit world.
While he justifies many of his ideas as different, he claims that his practices are valid, and that Satan has been a copy-cat of our Christian truth. While this is often the case, it seems more like Mark is bringing non-Christian ideas into Christianity, ideas that have never been a part of our history, and getting them from non-Christian places.
9) Mark and Patti state that the Israelites refused to have a relationship with God in Deuteronomy 5:22-31, and instead asked Moses to speak with God. Since they refused God in person, he then gave them the laws. But my whole life I have been told that the reason for the laws was to guide mankind, to show us our sinfulness, and to point the way to Jesus. I don't see the authors' interpretation in this passage at all, especially since God said it was good that the Israelites wanted Moses to be their spokesperson. Yet Mark and Patti are basically saying that if the Israelites had been willing to talk to God, there would have been no need for the Old Testament commands.
This doesn't mesh well with me as many passages of scripture state that God's commands are good and help one to become wiser. Also, Note on page 73 of the book, he states:
"Either we hear God speak and live in relationship with him, or we must live under the New Testament laws we discover."
Now I don't know about you, but I have trouble with that little word "or" in the sentence quoted immediately above, as it states that with a relationship to God there is no need for following his written commands. And yet, in scripture there are many occasions where the Bible writers made it very clear that sinning in major ways (adultery, idolatry, murder, etc.), if one did not repent and change direction, would result in the person not reaching the Kingdom of God at death. So God's commandments are very important to our salvation. Mark is WRONG.
10) Mark states that the Bible was just "a book written to me about other people's experiences with Him." and that he had idolized the Bible instead of God. My response to that is – The Bible IS GOD'S WORD – it should be respected, obeyed, loved. As noted above, our salvation depends on our following God's will and commands, and the best way to discover God's commands is in Bible study and attending a good Bible-based church. To be fair, the author does state that it is important to verify the "spirit encounters" with God by the Bible, and to use spiritual advisors to verify that what you've "heard" from God is truly from him. Yet I believe his teachings overall are a slippery slope in the wrong direction. They look "good" but consider the fruit.
This man was a minister for many years. He is teaching ideas that I believe conflict with true, time-tested doctrine and Christian beliefs.
4 Stars Greater intimacy with Jesus
I would like to make a few comments in reference to the review that called the Virkler book "New Age" and asserted that it was like consulting the Ouija board. First of all, I wonder if that reviewer has actually done any of the journaling exercises as taught in this book. Have they taken a month or two of daily writing according to these principles and been able to find out for themselves what it is all about? Or did they just read the book and make a Big Pronouncement after that superficial encounter?
In regard to the "New Age" criticism-Virkler quite clearly addresses this issue and defines quite plainly how this approach is very different. In addition, when doing the journaling, one is to have at least two other knowledgeable, Spirit-led Christian advisors to make sure that everything being received is in line with scripture and not veering off into other, darker realms of spiritual access.
If one's view of Christianity is one of theological knowledge and discourse, or in other words "the head", then this kind of angle will be offensive and seem wrong. But if your view is more that it is an affair of "the heart", that Jesus calls us to intimacy with him, that he wants us to be his (in the spiritual sense) "lover", then the journaling techniques taught in this book are an invaluable tool in creating that close, personal, "drinking from his mouth", kind of relationship to which he calls us. To dismiss it as New Age is unfair and frankly, untrue. It would be wrong if it discouraged a seeker from learning something that could make all the difference in his/her spiritual life.
5 Stars Do want a deeper relationship with God?
This book is a wonderful tool for those who want true intimacy with God. The knowledge coupled with doing the exercises truly equips the participant with a balanced and solid foundation for their Christian walk and relationship with the Lord and our Father.
1 Star destructive teaching by a nice guy
Virkler's chief claim in Hearing God's Voice is, "God's voice is a flow of spontaneous thoughts in our heart." This is the antithesis of how God has certainly spoken to humanity throughout history and minimizes the authority of the scriptures.
Virkler's book minimizes reason and rationality with claims that mystical inner thoughts and visions speak for God. This defective teaching, no matter how kind and sincere a man Mark Virkler proves to be, will damage the one who believes and follows it. It has eternal consequences.
GOD DECIDES TO SPEAK THROUGH MEDIATORS:
The scripture verse Virkler quotes on the cover of his book Hearing God's Voice, "We have heard His voice…We have seen this day that God speaks with Man" proves his claim is wrong. In fact, the passage in Deuteronomy 5 is a vivid description of God's voice that was tangible and experienced through their physical senses. These people heard God with their physical ears and saw the fire on the mountain. They heard and understood His words with their rational minds; quite different from a mystical "spontaneous flow of thoughts in their hearts." Israel was overwhelmed by God's tangible voice and asked God for a human mediator – requesting that God would speak to them through a man instead. God declared this request for a mediator between His people and Himself was good and pleased Him. Here is the passage in Deut. 5:
24"You said, `Behold, the LORD our God has shown us His glory and His greatness, and we have heard His voice from the midst of the fire; we have seen today that God speaks with man, yet he lives. 25`Now then why should we die? …`Go near and hear all that the LORD our God says; then speak to us all that the LORD our God speaks to you, and we will hear and do it.' "The LORD heard the voice of your words when you spoke to me, and the LORD said to me, `I have heard the voice of the words of this people which they have spoken to you. They have done well in all that they have spoken.
Later in Deuteronomy chapter 18 God repeats that the request of the people pleased Him:
15"The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him. "This is according to all that you asked of the LORD your God in Horeb on the day of the assembly, saying, `Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, let me not see this great fire anymore, or I will die.' "The LORD said to me, `They have spoken well. 18`I will raise up a prophet from among their countrymen like you, and I will put My words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him.
Compare this to what Mark Virkler explains about the same incident:
They didn't expect that the voice of God would come with the fire of God, and they decided they would rather not have a relationship with Him if He was going to be that way! Instead they chose to send Moses to God as their representative, to let him have the relationship and find out what God wanted them to do. God agreed to their request but warned that, first, He was not going to stop talking. If they didn't want to hear Him, they would have to leave.
Virkler's book claims that the people were deciding against having a relationship with God when they requested Moses be the mediator. How could God say, "They have done well in all that they have spoken," if they were rejecting God as Virkler claims? Obviously, God was pleased because He desired to speak to His people through a man as a mediator and the first official mediator was Moses. According to Moses, God also chose other men as messengers to speak to His people, the prophets. Thus, throughout history, the people of Israel always heard the voice of God with physical ears, tangibly, from the mouths of real men. The nation of Israel was not composed of mystics seeking personal revelations in spontaneous thoughts. God's voice was not to be heard or experienced on demand "freestyle" as each person felt. The book of Judges depicts the closest thing to personal freestyle revelations in which "each man did what was right in his own eyes." It also declares that this led to a defective understanding of God and damaging actions by His people. God's voice spoken to the real ears of His people by real vocal cords of His messengers is radically different than a mystical internal experience cut off from the physical senses that Virkler's teaching is promoting.
PHYSICAL SENSES vs. MYSTICISM:
In fact, in Deut 18:22, 23 we find that God provided His people with the certified method of hearing His voice, to listen to the words of His prophet. God officially chose to speak through these men as His mediators. The obvious question the people raised was, "How can we tell who is Your prophet and who isn't?" God anticipated this question and gave them specific criteria to judge whether a man was His mouthpiece or not, "
21"You may say in your heart, `How will we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?' 22"When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him."
God did not leave peoples' "discernment" of the prophet to subjectivity or feelings or even whether he was a nice guy. God demanded that His people discern prophets, and therefore His voice, with their rational minds and physical senses.
Compare this concept of hearing God's voice with our physical senses to the teaching of Mark Virkler. In The four Keys to Hearing from God, Mark Virkler quotes Habakkuk 2:1-2 as the proof text that God speaks to us internally in spontaneous thoughts, visions, feelings, or impressions when we quiet our minds – guaranteed.
1 I will stand on my guard post
And station myself on the rampart;
And I will keep watch to see
what He will speak to me,
And how I may reply when I am reproved.
2 Then the LORD answered me and said,
"Record the vision
And inscribe it on tablets,
That the one who reads it may run.
Look at what the very next verse states. Habakkuk claims that his words will certainly come to pass.
3 "For the vision is yet for the appointed time;
It hastens toward the goal
and it will not fail.
Though it tarries, wait for it;
For it will certainly come, it will not delay.
We see that Habakkuk's proof for claiming to be a legitimate prophet in chapter 3:1 is consistent with the criteria God commanded in Deut 18. People would know that Habakkuk's words were certainly God's voice because they would certainly come to pass. They could rely on them all to be true. All Israelites who heard Habakkuk or read his words would have been hearing the voice of God with their physical ears or eyes. Those who refused to listen or would not read the writings of Habakkuk were not hearing the voice of God as they should have been. Those who disobeyed Habakkuk's words were disobeying God. Please note that the emotions or feelings of those who heard Habakkuk were not as important as their physically having heard the words of God's mediator. Feelings or discussing them with "spiritual advisors" had no bearing on deciding whether the prophet's words were God's or not.
Virkler's teaching continuously pushes his followers into mysticism and internal experiences in their imagination. Calling internal impressions and spontaneous thoughts "the Spirit," Virkler minimizes rational understanding. On page 25 Virkler advocates a worldview he calls "Rationalism/Mysticism Combined." He teaches people to imagine Jesus in their minds and coaches them to see spiritual visions when he writes, "How to see a vision (pictures which light upon your mind)." This concept is absent from scripture. God does not command us to train our imaginations to see Jesus in our hearts or to seek His voice there. Instead we are told that Jesus is in heaven seated physically at the right hand of God the Father waiting to return. In fact, God discourages imagination when it comes to hearing His voice. God's true voice spoken through His mediator Jeremiah said this in Jer 23:11:
Thus says the LORD of hosts,
"Do not listen to the words of the prophets who are prophesying to you.
They are leading you into futility;
They speak a vision of their own imagination,
Not from the mouth of the LORD.
MYSTICISM – FALSE PROPHETS TO OURSELVES:
When God speaks, we have only two choices: to obey or to sin. Falsely claiming to speak for God is damaging because people are deluded into serving something else except God. This is why it is so important to have a clear voice of God and why false prophets were stoned. While we tend to apply "they speak a vision of their own imagination" to the words of others who claiming to speak God's words, this should also be applied to all those who claim their own imaginations are certainly God's voice speaking to them internally. This means that mystics who don't meet the criteria of 100% accuracy God gave for prophets in Deut. 18 are false prophets to themselves when they claim their spontaneous thoughts, visions, feelings or impressions are certainly God's voice speaking to them. This is exactly where the teachings of Mark Virkler leads us to – Virkler trains us to become false prophets to ourselves! His seminar Hearing the Voice of God – Guaranteed claims that our spontaneous thoughts are certainly God's voice. Contrast to this mystical approach to God's voice scriptures describe in Hebrews 1:1:
God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.
GOD BECOMES MAN AND SPEAKS:
The ultimate expression of the voice of God was a man who spoke to us with vocal cords words that were heard by men with physical ears and were written down by their hands. These words continue to speak to us. This Man was the great prophet and mediator that Moses spoke about in Deut 18:15, "The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your countrymen, you shall listen to him." In a scene similar to Sinai, God descends upon a mountain in a cloud and commands 3 men standing in the presence of Moses to listen to Jesus, His Son. Peter, in Acts 3:22, and Stephen, in Acts 7:37, claimed that the man Jesus was this prophet Moses promised. Although nobody has ever seen the Father, the man Jesus is our mediator. Jesus has spoken with his human mouth the Father's words that we cannot hear or experience directly. The words of the man Jesus ARE the voice of God, spoken and understood by humans through their physical senses who wrote them down for our edification.
This is exactly what John wanted us to hear and believe. 1 John 1 tells us:
What was from the beginning, what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we have looked at and touched with our hands, concerning the Word of Life – and the life was manifested, and we have seen and testify and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was manifested to us– what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ. 4These things we write, so that our joy may be made complete.
How far this is from the concept that God's voice is to be sought in our spontaneous thoughts, visions, feelings or impressions. John knew that the words and claims made by the man Jesus were true because Jesus was bodily raised from the dead and John witnessed this with His physical senses. John wrote them down so that we might have fellowship with the Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the church. Our relationship with God is accomplished through the words communicated to us by men who physically experienced them.
IS THERE AN ALTERNATIVE TO MISTICISM?
I would like to propose an alternative method to hear God's voice with certainty. The concept is this: only listen to those men whom God has certified as messengers. In other words, don't follow mystics but hear the voice of God with your physical senses communicated by these men. Firstly, the voice of God we can trust is words spoken by Moses, who talked to God face to face. Moses continues to speak God's words to us even now through his writings and his words still hold us accountable. Secondly, God's voice speaks to us through the prophets after Moses through to Malachi. Most importantly, God's voice is heard in the words of the man Jesus and those men whom He physically appointed as His spokesmen (before other men who testified to that appointment through their physical senses as John did). In short, the guaranteed method to hear God's voice is to read the scriptures and study them to understand what the human authors were attempting to convey to us through their words.
THE HOLY SPIRIT AND SCRIPTURE:
After Christ ascended to the Father, He sent the Holy Spirit to those who believed in the voice of the Man He appointed. "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." One of the primary tasks of the Spirit was to enable Jesus' human companions to remember the words He had spoken to them. Jesus had physically and objectively spoken to all of His appointed apostles including Paul. The same Holy Spirit continues to help us as well, not through mystical experience, but by bringing to our remembrance the voice of God spoken to us by these men and by helping us to see the application of their words to our own lives. The unseen Holy Spirit's job is to testify to the One Mediator who was tangible and human. These men through the Spirit conveyed to us the voice of God in their writings. In scriptures we have God's love letter to humanity explaining where we find fellowship and relationship with Him. All who believe in those words delivered to us by these men enter God's family and become His as children – escaping the wrath that is to come. Those who claim there is no relationship without tangible two-way mystical dialog are deluded and deny the promise of the gospel. Even as a soldier held prisoner is still married to his wife while separated from her with only letters to read in his cell, so we are related to God if we believe in the words of those He sent to us. When He tangibly returns as a man, we will be with Him and rejoice.
The Holy Spirit is active in the words of scriptures and uses God's certain voice spoken there to convict and sanctify us. Those who understand, believe and obey these written words will receive eternal life when they are physically reunited with their Mediator. In John 5 we see that though the Pharisees studied the words of Moses, they did not believe or obey them. Jesus says to them, "For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?" In the manner of Virkler, these Pharisees had "imagined" their own laws concerning the Sabbath and set their spontaneous thoughts, impressions, and feelings as laws above God's certain voice spoken through Moses. The Pharisees were condemned because they did not obey the voice of God spoken through Moses, not because they obeyed it too well.
INTERNAL IMPRESSIONS,FEELINGS, AND PROVIDENCE:
I am not claiming that God, in His providence, does not give us feelings or is not involved in our impressions. I am only claiming that we can never be "guaranteed" that these feelings or impressions are God's voice because there are many sources for impressions in our lives and we are not infallible. We can only be "guaranteed" of God's voice in hearing the words of God's chosen messengers. God has revealed His will to us in scriptures and we obey it or we sin. In all areas God has not revealed concerning our lives we have liberty to decide and act as we wish without fear. For example, obvious areas of liberty include choosing a mate or career. God gives us liberty to make decisions in these areas by whatever criteria they wish to use, even irrational reasons, feelings, or passions. We can choose a career because of a dream or choose to marry someone because of an impression – God has given us liberty to choose. This does not mean that all choices are identically wise or have the same results. It is usually advisable to make the wisest decisions we are capable of. In these areas in which God has not revealed in the scriptures, the God's will for us remains hidden until it happens in history and the will of God is revealed in providence. Continuing on the example faced by a single person concerning marriage, God has not forbidden marriage (and even calls teachings that do so the "doctrine of demons") thus single people have liberty to get married to eligible unmarried singles. Among all the eligible people in the world, the single person has liberty to choose a partner to marry. Who God has chosen as their spouse is remains a mystery until the marriage happens. We know by the words of Jesus however, that once they have made their decision and married God Himself has joined them together. "For what God has joined together let no man separate." They chose and God's will was done.
COMPATIBLISM:
This concept is "compatiblism" and means that we choose and are responsible for our choices but God's providential will is being accomplished as we choose. The Holy Spirit is active in our thoughts, desires, decisions and daily life to accomplish God's purposes in us, whether we feel it or not. We find comfort in the afflictions and effects of our choices knowing that God has promised to work all things together for good those who love the Lord and are called according to His purposes. We read and study His certain words to grow in understanding and obedience to His revealed will as He commanded. We live and make decisions without guilt or fear in all the areas of liberty that are not revealed. As we do this, God's Holy Spirit is active in the lives of believers and all things are working for eternal good in their lives as they make decisions and live with their consequences.
5 Stars How to Hear God's Voice
Mark Virkler's book, How to Hear God's Voice, has been extremely helpful in taking me to deeper levels in my relationship with the Lord. Virkler is very helpful in his teaching and explaining how to hear, discern, and understand the Holy Spirit's communications with us. He's also been helpful in how to differente God's voice from our own and from satan's, and how to differente this communication from New Age processes. He keeps it biblical and gives helps on how not to be deceived.
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