Nationally syndicated radio and television personality, David Pakman, interviewed American Family Association’s Bryan Fischer about marriage equality and the recent victories the LGBT community achieved at the polls this past election day.
According to ThinkProgress, Fischer stated he is,
"…for homosexuals, but against homosexuality."
Fisher claims to want to help members of the LGBT community to,
"…leave that lifestyle.”
Fisher compared homosexuality to addiction, referring to drug abuse, and that exorcism can be beneficial. According to the Pakman interview,
- Fischer: think there’s no question that there are spiritual factors at work in this —
- Pakman: Are they demons?
- Fischer: — that using spiritual weapons of our warfare according to the New Testament can be effective. We know that people can get delivered from homosexual behavior. The former president of the American Psychological Association, Nathan Cummings — he’s seen that happen in his own private clinical practice. He’s seen people get free of homosexual behavior and change their sexual orientation, so it certainly is possible. There may be spiritual factors at work. If there are, then the power of the Gospel, the name of Jesus Christ, the power of the Holy Spirit can be of enormous help.
- Pakman: And an exorcism might be a way to do that?
- Fischer: Well we believe in the reality of spiritual forces just like Jesus did. [If] you got a problem with demons, David, your problem’s not with me, it’s with Jesus Christ, because he believed in them.
TP reports that of the various form of reparative therapies, all of which have been condemned by nearly every major psychiatric and psychological group, exorcisms and other forms of 'spiritual warfare' against the LGBT community are the most extreme.
Fischer referred to the Regnerus study that states same-sex couples can never be good parents. That study has been deemed fraudulent, and when the question was posed to Fischer as to whether or not he could change his sexual orientation, he refused to answer.
The report stated that Fischer's choice is to,
"…simply erase the experiences of millions of gays, lesbians, and bisexuals by reducing their lives to 'sexual behavior'.”
Fischer is frequently at the center of LGBT-related controversies for making outlandish statements.
Here is a video of the Pakman interview: