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Should "real" Christians vote for a Mormon? What would Jesus say?

Should "real" Christians vote for a Mormon? What would Jesus say?

I have to admit, I'm addicted to watching our live traffic stream.  And lately, I've noticed an uptick in search terms.

"Should Christians vote for a Mormon?" is the most popular term I've noted while watching it.   And I think that this is a symptom of the cognitive dissonance about religion and politics that has been going on in this country over the last twenty years.  What if your religious convictions are not black and white about who or what kind of person you should vote for?   How do you fill in the blanks?

This will not be a theologically driven column, although I will cite some Bible verses of things that Jesus specifically said about politics.   Instead, I am more interested in taking the Internet temperature of this confusion over whether a "true" Christian should vote for a Mormon–which suggests to many that "true" Christians don't consider Mormons Christians at all.  This election has raised a real quandary for conservatives, because so many of their candidates have claimed that God chose them to run, or wanted them to run.  Since many believe that Obama is a Muslim (even though he's not), they've got a choice between "the Muslim" or the "Mormon."  They are thinking Romney is the "lesser of two evils."  They're asking themselves these questions right now:

1) Does God REALLY choose candidates or influence politics?

2) If he does choose candidates, does choosing Romney mean that he now prefers Mormons to Christians*?

3) If God does NOT choose candidates, then does that mean that Mitt Romney is the anti-Christ?

4) In the event that either #2 or #3 is true, then should I be ordering a copy of the Book of Mormon and begin the process of conversion to get a jump on the crowds?

In a country that lauds religious freedom over every other nation on earth, we're working awfully hard to negate other faiths in favor of evangelical conservative Christianity (except Mormons).  We believe that everybody ought to enjoy the freedoms we do (except for Mormons).   We make jokes about multiple wives and entertain and titillate ourselves by watching shows like Big Love, (which is NOT representative of the Mormon faith as a whole, mind you),  simply because we cannot accept that Mormonism is a real faith–in fact, it is the only faith in America that was not imported from Europe.  It is uniquely–American.

And if we are "real" Americans, shouldn't we laud true nationalism?  Shouldn't we be lauding Mormonism as an example of what it means to be American?  Mormons are no strangers to persecution–(and for all you conservative Christians out there I'm talking REAL persecution–being killed for your faith–not simply being made to feel bad because someone doesn't agree with you).   Mormons have continually been driven from their land, they have been beaten, they have been killed–all because they're different. All because they haven't "measured up" to the majority faith (Christianity).

The Christian Post says that this is the greatest question evangelicals are grappling with in politics.  in fact, the question is such a terribly quandary for conservative Christian theologians, they've decided that Christ doesn't have much to do with this election:

"The Kingdom is not riding on whatever happens on election day and the church's  mission isn't going to change regardless of what happens … on Election Day,"  said Dr. R. Albert Mohler, president of The Southern Baptist Theological  Seminary, on Tuesday.

During a panel discussion at the Louisville seminary, Mohler recognized that the  hardest issue for many "thoughtful" evangelicals is not merely political. The  question on their minds is, "What does it mean worldwide for a Mormon, a member  of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, to be elected president of  the United States?" There's no question for many that Mormons make wonderful neighbors, the  theologian noted. They also lead commendable and admirable lives where family is  essential and caring for others is a major responsibility. But when it comes to  theology, what the LDS church teaches is a "false gospel," Mohler stressed, and  a belief system that would take people "to eternal destruction."

Mohler admits that many Mormons lead really good lives and are good neighbors.  Even though they live like Christians, he just can't get past the "fact" that to him, they're not.  He's more worried about saving them from their false faith.

How bigoted can you get?  It gets worse.  Some churches are throwing in the towel and deciding that if they have to choose between two evils, they'd rather have the white Mormon than the Black "Muslim."  We did an article about that, yesterday.    Right now, evangelicals have their panties in a twist and are busy devouring their own over Romney.

With two weeks to go before the presidential elections on Nov. 6, Internet evangelist Bill Keller of LivePrayer.com is still insisting that Christians cannot allow themselves to support a candidate like Mitt Romney, because his Mormon faith does not align with the teachings of Christ.

"It is no wonder why God is judging this nation by giving us a choice between  two son's of Satan when high profile men of God like Billy Graham and supposed  Christian leaders like Ralph Reed, Mark DeMoss, David Barton, and scores of  others are publicly telling Christians that it is OK to compromise their faith  and put temporal politics over the eternal souls of men to support a Baal  worshipper," Keller said in an email to The Christian Post.

The evangelist, who is urging people to write in the name of Jesus instead of  selecting either candidate on Election Day, refers to the Rev. Billy Graham's  recent remarks on Romney, which many say is an unofficial endorsement of the GOP  candidate.


How Christian.


Well guess what.  Christians were in that spot once along ago too.  The Romans didn't like the Christians because they wouldn't worship Roman gods.  Christians were killed for their faith, imprisoned, you name it.  Have you all gotten so far away from your own history that you have forgotten what it is like to not be accepted for who you are?

While I do not like Mitt Romney as a politician, I find it sad that in a country that lauds religious freedom that Mormonism is again taking its share of hits.  What do other pastors say about Mormonism?  We got the opinion of the great Billy Graham–who doesn't really like Mormonism given his actions of late–but endorses Romney anyway because he's Republican. Period.    If there were any other alternative, I am not afraid to say that Graham would be endorsing someone else.  I found an article that I believe sums up the conservative Christian position on Mormons:

Why Mormons Are Not Christian.

First: Mormons do not follow or believe in the historic Jesus Christ of the Bible, but rather in a difference Jesus. This is why most Biblical Christians emphatically insist that Mormons are not Christians. Let me explain.

The god of the Mormons is not the God of the Bible. To the Mormons, Jesus is the firstborn son of an exalted "man" who became the god of this world. The man-god of Mormonism was made the god of this world because of his good works on another planet somewhere out in the universe. He "earned" godhood, and was thus appointed by a counsel of gods in the heavens to his high position as the god of planet Earth. The Mormon god of this world was a man, like all men, who became a god. This is what the celestial marriage and the temple vows are all about. LDS men, by doing their temple work, are striving for exaltation by which they, too, shall one day become gods. Their wives will be the mother goddesses of "their" world and with their husband will produce the population of their world. This is the Mormon doctrine of "eternal progression."

Note the following quote from the Mormon Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, page 123, made by the LDS Apostle Orson Hyde:

"Remember that God, our heavenly Father, was perhaps once a child, a mortal like we ourselves, and rose step by step in the scale of progress, in the school of advancement; has moved forward and overcome, until He has arrived at the point were He is."

Lorenzo Snow, late President of the Mormon church, made this statement in the second verse of his famous poem entitled, "Man's Destiny":

"As Abra'm, Isaac, Jacob, too, babes, then men–to gods they grew. As man now is, our God once was; As now God is, so man may be,– Which doth unfold man's destiny. . ."

The God of the Bible is not an exalted man. The God of the Bible is omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient. The Bible says He is the only God and there are no other Gods. He had no beginning or end and he is a spirit being and never was a man.

And of course, Christians know their "truth" because the Bible tells them so.  Doesn't the Bible also say "Judge not, lest ye be judged?"

I have known many Mormons who were more Christian than their Christian neighbors.  I have known many people who were never Christian or Mormon who were more Christian than their Christian neighbors.  What does that say about those who practice it?   Yes, there are good Christians.  Those I have known are precious few.  In fact, this is such a problem amongst Christians, a Christian group wrote a book about it warning that Christians were driving away new converts, younger potential converts, because of the perception that Christians are narrow minded religious bigots.   The Christian attitude towards Mormons does nothing to refute this perception. God's reply?

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.’ (Galatians 3:28; Colossians 3:11)

The Greeks were polytheistic–to Christians today, they would be the bottom feeders. To Christians then, they were because Christians worshipped only one God.  Yet Paul says Christians are not to discriminate against anyone because of their religion or status in life.   A Christian website puts it even more succintly:

There is neither bond nor free – The condition of a free man does not give him any special claims or advantages in regard to religion; and the condition of a slave does not exclude him from the hope of heaven, or from being regarded as a child of God, on the same terms, and entitled to the same privileges as his master…That it is unique to Christianity. All other systems of religion and philosophy make different ranks, and endeavor to promote the distinctions of caste among people. They teach that certain people are the favorites of heaven, in virtue of their birth or their rank in life, or that they have special facilities for salvation. Thus, in India the Brahmin is regarded as, by his birth, the favorite of heaven, and all others are supposed to be of a degraded rank. The great effort of people, in their systems of religion and philosophy, has been to show that there are favored ranks and classes, and to make permanent distinctions on account of birth and blood. Christianity regards all people as made of one blood to dwell on all the face of the earth (see the note at Acts 17:26), and esteems them all to be equal in the matter of salvation; and whatever notions of equality prevail in the world are to be traced to the influence of the Christian religion.

Now, I'm not a Christian.  I used to be.  And this won't be a treatise on why I am not any longer–but let me just say that if you are in a quandary about who to vote for because you believe that either candidate isn't quite Christian enough for you, take my advice.

Don't vote.

Go back to church and reassess your Christianity.  Are you helping the poor, as Jesus told you to do?  Or are you too busy telling everybody how righteous you are?  Are you esteeming everyone as better than yourself?

The real question of the election remains: Do evangelicals hate Obama more than they love Jesus?  The blog "The Erstwhile Conservative" explores this question:

As a former evangelical Christian who was taught that Mormonism is a cult, I wonder how faithful God- and Obama-fearing evangelicals will be this November when it comes time to cast their votes. In order to rid themselves of our funky President, they will have to validate the funky religion of Mitt Romney.

And I will enjoy watching them wrestle with their biblical angst, as the election nears.

Mike Huckabee, at one-time a Romney rival,  gave us a peek at this theological anxiety when he famously asked in 2007, “Don’t Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?” Claiming the question was a “traditional smear” of the Mormon faith, Romney accepted Huckabee’s subsequent apology. Except what Huckabee suggested wasn’t a smear. Mormonism does consider Jesus and Satan brothers, but scholars assure us that long ago God had the good sense to give the rebellious bro a celestial ass-kicking and send him packing.

All of which goes to illustrate how strange is Mormonism, the 19th-century religious concoction that conservative evangelicals have always regarded as an ungodly cult. And it also shows how eager Mormons are to get the theological blessing of their fellow political conservatives.

According to a Pew Forum poll last November, 75% of U.S. Mormons support the Republican Party and 66% call themselves conservative. And while about half of all Americans consider Mormonism to be Christian, I have never met an evangelical who does. So, this November can conservative evangelicals really come to peaceful theological terms with an LDS church that considers itself the only true church?

Frankly, I'm going to get some popcorn and enjoy the show. There can only be, after all one true church.  And while I hope Romney gets his Republican ass kicked, (not because he's Mormon but because I think he's a wishy washy politician who panders to everyone which is why he doesn't have a solid position on anything except he doesn't have a solid position on anything), I hope even more that Christians re-evaluate how they look in the public eye.  If you want to be political activists, fine, okay–but be prepared to be criticized without whining that you are perpetually persecuted.  Until you are killed for your faith or imprisoned for it, you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Stop hating and start practicing what you preach, and vote your conscience, or don't vote at all.  And personally, I like Jesus' advice:

Love one another.



About Dakota O'Leary

Dakota O'Leary is a freethinker, and often sassy, scholar of theology and literature. She got her Bachelor of Arts degree in English and Theology from the State University of New York College at Buffalo, and her Master of Arts degree in Theology and Literature from Antioch University-Midwest. She is a contributing writer focusing on eschatology, biblical prophecy, and general religious news. Dakota is a co-host of the God Discussion radio show, offering insight to the news stories of the week. We like to call her "our in-house Biblical prophecy expert" as her articles on eschatology have received over 200,000 views on God Discussion.
  • Deborah_B

    This is one of your best articles ever, Dakota! The sincere fundamentalist Christians who believe that they are accountable for each and every action they take will not be voting Romney, in my opinion, because of their beliefs. I noticed that end times preacher Paul Begley is participating in the "Vote for Jesus" movement and, whether people agree with him or not, sincerely believes that it would be wrong to vote for a Mormon based on his interpretation of the Bible.

    The rest of them were busy praying and praying and praying in various 40 days of prayer events throughout the campaign season, beseeching Jesus to deliver God's holy candidate and this is what they've received. Driven by anti-gay animus and love for zygotes, they'll be out in droves to vote for their man no matter what, because all of the sudden, religion doesn't matter any more in their "government" mountain that they want to dominate.

    There's a movement to create legislative prayer caucuses in all 50 states, and a number of these have already been created. Their goal appears to be to destroy secular criticism of church/state infringements and follows the same anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-everything-but-right-wing-Christian-values that we see over and over today. On the board of directors are Baptists and right wing evangelicals, right wing Jews, Mormons, 7th Day Adventists and Catholics. I think a lot of the elements of these churches are uniting in the name of religious liberty to promote right wing causes. Of course, Hindus, Buddhists, Unitarians and Muslims are not on this board … and I doubt we'll see much of an outreach to them.

  • I'm guessing since I keep getting downvoted in Reddit Religion that criticizing one's Christianity isn't a popular move LOL 🙂

    • Deborah_B

      Pastor Kevin's articles get down-voted, too. I don't understand the bias of some of the down-voting, so I basically ignore it.

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  • connor carpenter

    Nice article. As a Mormon, I think it's pretty interesting phenomena that our faith has a kind of unrequited love of fellow Christians. Of course, anyone can go dig up quotes of Mormon leaders bashing Christians 150 years ago when the Mormons were getting persecuted all the way to Utah, but today, we as a Church desperately want Christian acceptance.

    For us, it isn't emphasized that God and Jesus are separate beings, and that God was once a man. That's not why I go to Church. There, I'm taught the life and teachings of Jesus Christ, and his ultimate sacrifice that paved the way for our eternal salvation. Quibble over all the little differences as much as you want – what matters to us is attempting to emulate the life Jesus Christ and develop a personal connection with Him. Same as Christians. It seems like just cultural baggage allows some Christians to straw-man us up and create divisions between our very similar goals and world-views.

    We love Christians (although sometimes that's hard to do when labeled as a "cult" every other day). If they gave us a chance and looked beyond petty differences, I am certain they would reciprocate that. I feel like in general it's getting better but the vocal minority is very discouraging.

  • queequeg

    Thanks for the article Dakota. It was very interesting. Personally, if religion must be part of the "equation", then I long for the day that it all rolls into one; say, Amish perhaps. They seem fairly benign and innocuous. As long as they don't believe any of that transmutation stuff.

    • queequeg

      Transubstantiation is what I meant.

  • Wow, What a woman full of hate against the Mormons, what did we ever do to you? You want Obama get yourself to the voting booth on the 6th of November. I am sorry that you hate us mormons as much as you do, and yet you claim to be a follower of the "biblical Jesus" yeah, right. You are one of the so called Christains in wolves clothing that is just full of lip service but it is quite clear that your heart is far from him, only a fool would take any kind of advice of any kind from an idiot like you.

    • Hope Riding

      Not helping.

    • Deborah_B

      Who are you commenting to, and who are you accusing of hating Mormons? The only ones we've been talking about who "hate" Mormonism are fundamentalist Christians who have been calling Mormonism a cult and un-Christian throughout the campaign.

    • Say, I was DEFENDING Mormons. How about reading the article?

      • Deborah_B

        I'm not sure if he was complaining about the article or my comment — the article defended Mormons; my comment talked about the fundamentalist extremism of those who accuse the Mormons. I don't see anything here hating on Mormons.

  • Romney has been attacked for being a Mormon since he entered politics in 1994. Newt Gingrich found it cpnvenient to change his teligious affiliation. but Romney has been stedfast and consistent in his religious faith. If he was the kind of weasel you describe whose highest value is getting vptes, he would have become a Southern Baptist. He lives up to his commitments to his wife, and his church, pay a titge of hus income. And he has been a man of integrity in his business dealings.

    • Deborah_B

      I personally think that people have no business attacking Romney for his faith (or any other candidates' faith or lack thereof). As Dakota mentioned in her article, many Mormons live out the highest Christian values more than the Christians who criticize them.

      • I'm not getting the hate here towards me for defending Romney's faith. Yikes. Just because I don't like the man doesn't mean I don't believe that people ought to respect his faith.

        • Deborah_B

          I think Raymond is talking about "the accusers" who ignore Newt's brand of faith and others like him, not you.

  • lana ward

    Romney is a fine, decent man WHO LOVES HIS COUNTRY!! Weather you like it or not, Obama or Romney will be President. Obama hates America and is doing all he can to destroy us. So Christians, what will it be? Romney and a thriving America, or Obama and The United States Of Islam?

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  • Proctor S. Burress

    The short answer is: it is not possible. (Should "real" Christians vote for a Mormon?") The reason: Mormons have proclaimed from thee 1830s that the LDS are preaching the "restored Gospel." No others BUT LDS have it. No others can "name and claim" it.

    All other Christian communions, traditions and interpretations became invalid as of Joseph Smith's (and Sidney Rigdon's) testimony! This is the teaching of the Latter Day Saints not an interpretation.

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  • Sheri

    Excellent article Dakota. So well put together. I agree with everything you say, and have tried to say many times before, that those who don't like Romney because he is Mormon expose much about their own prejudice and intolerance. Thanks, and I shared.

  • Mormons are an Evil, anti-Christian cult.

    As a Bishop in the LDS, Romney believes the following :

    He believes that Jesus Christ is Satan's brother.

    He believes that God lives near a planet called "Kolob."

    He believes in baptizing dead people.

    He believes that Jesus is married to a goddess wife.

    He believes that The Garden of Eden was in Missouri.

    He believes that it was impossible for Negroes to go to Heaven before 1978.

    He believes that Jesus has children from his wife or wives.

    He believes that he is going to become a god.

    He believes he will own his own personal planet after he dies.

    He believes the real Christian God is not eternal but rather that He was
    once a man on some other planet besides Earth!

    He believes he needs to wear magical underwear created by Mormons and he is
    never to take it off unless he is bathing.

    He believes it is a sin to drink anything containing caffeine. And that
    even includes True American drinks like Coca-Cola!

    He believes children between the ages of 18-21 should wear name badges,
    ride bicycles and always smile.

    The Romneys Rail Against A Hospice In The Neighborhood Where They Forced A
    Mormon Temple Through (VIDEO)


    Give up your son or give up your God: How Mitt Romney 'pressured Mormon
    follower to put her baby up for adoption' :


    Romney is a Mormon Bishop and he should publicly apologize for his Church
    Baptizing Dead Jews and Christians.

    Mormons Still Baptizing Dead Jews Despite Agreements to End Practice


    Mitt Romney flashback: Stay-at-home moms need to learn ‘dignity of work’


    • Enlightenment

      Well, you appear to be a Christian with a bit of pent up rage. Time for some fun! Now that you've had a good go at the Mormons, let's rattle off a short list of stuff you believe:

      -It is fine to own slaves, so long as they are purchased from neighboring nations (Leviticus 25:44)
      -You are free to sell your own daughter into slavery (Exodus 21:7)
      -Anyone who works on the Sabbath shall be put to death (Exodus 35:2)
      -Eating shellfish is an abomination (11:10)
      -You are expressly forbidden from trimming the hair around your temples (Leviticus 19:27)
      -Touching the skin of swine (football, bacon) is not permitted and renders you unclean (Leviticus 11:6-8)
      -You may not under any circumstances plant two different crops on the same field (Leviticus 19:19) <- this instance secures you death by stoning from your entire town
      -Also in Leviticus 19:19, you may not combine two different kinds of fiber in your garments; this too is an abomination <- the whole town stones you to death for this, too

      [Below are in case you are a literal creationist]
      -The Earth is 9,000 years old
      -We as humans walked around with dinosaurs
      -Evolution is a crackpot theory
      -EVERYTHING EVER was created in exactly 7 days (Which is a bit interesting, no man was around to record it, and the concept of time had not even been thought about yet as there was no man to do it)

      And if you happen to be a Catholic as well, don't forget that back in the day your religion perpetrated the Crusades, offered absolution of sins for a monetary fee, and excommunicated people like Galileo for things like saying the Earth revolves around the Sun.

      PS- "traditional marriage is between a man and an exact clone of that man who is a woman"

      • beefcake24

        Enlightenment: +1 AnthonyGerald: 0 Haha I love when someone posts some ignorant stuff like this and then refuses to respond to any responses.

  • Romney lies, flip-flops, evades and deceives everyday and has made money
    out of Abortion and Ponzi Schemes.

    All Religious Conservatives supporting should open their eyes. Mitt is a
    cynical opportunist and an empty vessel.

    Romney on Abortion – 2002


    Pro-Lifer Romney Says Killing Embryos Is Okay


    Romney Invested in Medical-Waste Firm That Disposed of Aborted Fetuses,
    Government Documents Show


    Mitt Romney's wife had blind trust invested in Goldman Sachs' sex
    trafficking fund


    Mitt Romney's wife had blind trust invested in Goldman Sachs' sex
    trafficking fund


    Bain Capital helped financial fraudsters dodge taxes.


    Mitt Romney's 1981 arrest and 4 other times he lost his cool


    The Romneys Rail Against A Hospice In The Neighborhood Where They Forced A
    Mormon Temple Through (VIDEO)


    Give up your son or give up your God: How Mitt Romney 'pressured Mormon
    follower to put her baby up for adoption' :


    Romney is a Mormon Bishop and he should publicly apologize for his Church
    Baptizing Dead Jews and Christians.

    Mormons Still Baptizing Dead Jews Despite Agreements to End Practice


    • congratulations, you didn't miss a one of the tired old liberal lies that have been disproved time and time again

  • Dandini

    …by their fruits ye shall know them…" (Matt 7:20),

    and, “…for whoever is not against us is for us…” (Mark 9:40)

    National Study of Youth and Religion, 2005, UNC, Chapel Hill (U.S. Adolescents Ages 13-17) — The Study found that Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) youth were more likely to exhibit Christian characteristics than Evangelicals (the next most observant group)

    2012, the Pew Research Center's Forum on Religion & Public Life released a new survey, the first ever published by a non-LDS research organization to focus exclusively on members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints… "Mormons exhibit higher levels of religious commitment than many other religious groups, including white evangelical Protestants… Looking at basic, core religious beliefs, 98 percent say they believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ… While previous surveys have clearly established LDS agreement with certain key Christian doctrines — Mormons believe in God, believe the Bible is the word of God and believe in life after death…

    “Protestants, Catholics and Mormons Reflect Diverse Levels of Religious Activity” – – July 9, 2001 study released by the Barna Research Group of Ventura, California. The study found that Mormons are more likely to read the Bible during a week than are Protestants. The Barna institute for religious studies identified that outside of Sunday church sermons (meaning in the home), Mormons were more likely to have read the bible (not the Book of Mormon, but the Bible) than any other religion polled.

    2012 – University of Pennsylvania's School of Social Policy and Practice — Latter-day Saints “volunteer and donate significantly more than the average American and are even more generous in time and money than the upper quintile of religious people in America… When it comes to the time they spend volunteering, the average adult American LDS member contributes as much as seven times more than that of the average American… “Self-interest in this group didn't apply, which goes against all economics principles." The published findings further indicate that these “prosocial behaviors” are reflective of Latter-day Saint teachings, which emphasize Christian service and charity to others.

    A national 2010 Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life survey aimed to test a broad range of religious knowledge, including understanding of the Bible, core teachings of different faiths and major figures in religious history: on questions about Christianity and the Bible, Mormons scored the highest. They also scored second only to Jews in knowledge of Judaism. [Overall, Mormons understand their own doctrines and the Bible better than other Christian denominations.]

  • beefcake24

    This is pathetic, and why I refuse to vote. I can honestly say I'm embarrassed to be part of the human species. I can't believe it's 2012 and people still believe this shit. No wonder the world is in such a mess.

  • MormonMominFL

    Thank you for the well-written article. I appreciate your open-minded viewpoints. I have been a practicing member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for all of my 46 years. I believe that I am a Christian because I love and follow and worship Jesus Christ. He is my Savior and through Him I hope to obtain salvation and eternal life. What the Savior thinks of me is more important that any definition of Christianity. Every day, He guides me and helps me in what I do.

    At church, we are often reminded that our church is politically neutral and does not endorse any political party or candidate. I remember hearing this stated from the pulpit all of my life–even when no members of our church were running for President. There are both Republicans and Democrats in my family. It's easy for us to get too vocal for one side or the other, and we have to back up and "agree to disagree."

    On a side note, I am voting for Romney! He has much experience in balancing budgets and creating jobs, which is likely the biggest problem our country faces right now. Did you notice how in the 3rd debate, it kept going back to the economy?! If America is struggling with debt and feeding its citizens, how can we begin to be a world strength that we need to be?

  • LoveAsHeLoves

    I believe Jesus was apolitical. Time and again he sidestepped the political storms of the day, whether it was entrapment by the Pharisees on paying taxes (give to Caesar, what is Caesar’s), or His elevation by the Zealots into an earthly King, whom they would help seize power by force (those who take up the sword will die by the sword). However, as believers of Jesus', we are called to vote our conscience, and to clearly see humans for what they are, and not for what we would like them to be, and to vote for a candidate who most closely embodies the teachings and actions of Jesus. This year, the Democrat platform tried to erase "God" and "Jerusalem" as the capital of Israel from its platform. Pres. Obama only forced them to put it back in, because of the backlash of controversy in
    the Press. It was put back in, in spite of the boos and disagreement of most of the members in the hall. It brought me to tears that so many who belong to this party are so far from the heart of God. They want the government to take care of the poor, eliminating the duty of God's people to care for the poor and oppressed, so they can continue to mock and repudiate those of us who love the Lord. They spend all their time arguing the rights of those with different values, morals, and ethics than Christians, and spew all their hate and vitriol on those of us who stand up for the values of Jesus' teachings. They want taxpayer dollars to pay for abortion and birth control, instead of ensuring we have an economy where women can earn enough money to pay for reproductive freedom with their own money, and not force those who believe differntly to subsidize personal choice. While I am distrustful of Mormonism, because of the number of man-made precepts that it requires its members to follow, is it any worse than some of the other denominations that are based on man-made doctrine or rules (Seventh-Day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Amish, Mennonites. etc., etc.)? Greek Orthodox clerics will tell you ALL other denominations are deviations from the original church the Disciples created, and they are the only ones who have kept the purity of Christ's Church.When it comes to whether to vote for Pres. Obama or Gov. Romney, I believe that Gov. Romney's Mormon upbringing led him to be more disciplined, kind, and patient, and to have a heart for service – following scripture, he doesn’t actively pursue publicity for his good works. Pres. Obama identifies himself as Christian, but he came to it late in life, when it harder to change your core values. You can argue against the former precepts of Mormonism (polygamy, exclusion of blacks), and its addition of writings that add to original scripture, but Pres. Obama was led into the Christian life by a pastor who preaches Black Liberation Theology, whose followers might be characterized as the Zealots of their day. Rev Wright views America as the Jews of Jesus' day viewed Rome: oppressive, morally wrong, and in need of a violent and radical uprising to change things. Mormons believe Christians should be the ones who help the poor and needy, Black Liberationists believe the Government should help the black poor and needy first, and erase all the injustices of the past, even if it requires violence. Jesus calls us to love each other, and to have joy, peace, patience, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Look at the debates and the speeches of both candidates in these closing days, and ask yourself which candidate MOST embodies most of these characteristics. Choose a president with both your Christian heart, and the best wisdom of your worldly mind. The future role of the Christian Church in American society may depend on you making the right choice.

  • Hannah

    This is just my two cents…

    I'm not sure what a "true" Christian is versus a "fake" Christian. However, I think that calling Mormons Christian is a huge distortion of the word. It would be like calling me, an atheist, a Christian because I believe that there was a historical man named Jesus who had a few good ideas.

    And, as someone who has lived in Utah for six years, I think it is a very bad idea to put a devout Mormon in the White House. Most Mormons are very proud of their inability to separate their religion from ANY facet of their life, including politics and work. Romney has been lead and instructed by the LDS church in his political career several times, which is a violation of the Constitution. If Romney is president, the LDS church becomes president.

    • Dandini

      Hanna – – – – – – I think we need to look at how they lived their lives to make a good choice. . . . Romney:

      After high school, he spent about 30 months in France as an unpaid missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and had to pay for his own room and board.

      He was an unpaid volunteer campaign worker for his dad's gubernatorial campaign 1 year. He was an unpaid intern in his dad’s governor’s office for eight years.

      After graduating from both Harvard Business School and Harvard Law School simultaneously, he passed the Michigan bar but never worked as an attorney.

      In 1984, he co-founded Bain Capital a private equity investment firm.

      Under his leadership, Bain Capital, starting with one small office supply store in Massachusetts, turned it into Staples; now over 2,000 stores employing 90,000 people.

      He also worked to perform the same kinds of business miracles again and again, with companies like Domino's Pizza, Sealy, Brookstone, Weather Channel, Burger King, Monsanto, Burlington, Warner Music Group, Dollarama, Home Depot Supply, Sports Authority, Steel Dynamics (SDI) which has since grown to become the fifth-largest U.S. producer of carbon-steel products, and many other successful companies. It is more profitable to have a company worth more than less… Yes, he could not save a few who were too deep in difficulties.

      Romney “outsourcing” has been debunked by Factcheck, Washington Post, and Yahoo News.

      He gave his entire inheritance from his father to charity.

      In 1994, he ran for Senator of Massachusetts and lost to Ted Kennedy.

      He took a 1 dollar salary while helping save the 2002 Winter Olympic Games financially.

      He was an unpaid bishop and stake president of his church for about 12 years giving voluntary service of at least 20 or more hours each week for that entire time frame.

      In 2002, he was elected Governor of the State of Massachusetts where he eliminated a 1.5 billion deficit.

      He took no salary and was the unpaid Governor of Massachusetts for four years.

      In 2008, Romney and his wife, Ann, were awarded the Becket Fund's prestigious Canterbury Medal for "Courage in the Defense of Religious Liberty”.

      Romney has released his full Tax returns for 2011 and 2010 — and a summary of his federal tax payments since 1990. The Romneys paid state and federal taxes in each of the last 20 years; their effective tax rate in 2011 was 14.1 percent. From a summary prepared by PricewaterhouseCoopers they know the couple’s average annual effective federal tax rate from 1990 to 2009 was 20.20 percent.

  • Jeff Cole

    You mention that Mormonism is the only true American faith. Is not Native American belief a faith? I guess that you were just talking about faiths that believe in Jesus, maybe not. Just a thought.

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